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Lisa Daily

Hi,

I stumbled upon your blog and read it with great interest. After reading Lisa McLeod's column, I must say, I couldn't disagree with you more.

I am an author or a non-fiction book with a major publisher (Stop Getting Dumped!/Putnam) and I have have just sold my first novel to Putnam as well. Before I became an author, I worked for eight years as a professional writer.

Before you call out the rest of the Diction Militia and hang Ms. McLeod on typewriter ribbon for her sins, you might want to reconsider. From William Shakespeare to Pat Conroy to Dave Barry, great writers have always used language at their whim to communicate their ideas. And sometimes those ideas are too big to fit into proper quotation marks.


Writers should not be slaves to punctuation and grammar -- we are not shift workers punching in for the big composition teacher in the sky.

Punctuation and grammar exist for the writer, not the other way around. Punctuation for writers is like being vocal during foreplay -- we use it to tell the reader to speed up, slow down, or move a little to the left.

Grammar and punctuation exist for us, which is why we don't always need to follow its rules, it adapts to ours. We are the keepers of the dictionary.

You may be satisfied with woefully-limiting pronouns, but I am not.

Lisa, Dave, Stephen and I, along with the other writers in the world who need a gender-neutral word for his and/or her, will use "their" in the singular. And thirty-five years from now, the lemmings who teach fifth period will follow suit.

If you want to wait until the good folks at Elements of Style and Webster's Dictionary catch on, be my guest. But I don't feel it's necessary to wait for the world to catch up with what I'd like to say.

I do agree that good writers should know all the rules. And when they have a darn good reason, they should feel justified in breaking them. But not knowing all the rules does not make a bad writer, it just makes a bad composition teacher.

Ms. McLeod may be the worst grammarian on the planet, but she's a fantastic writer. Maybe we should take up a collection to hire a good line editor for her.

Writing isn't basic mathematics. It is fluid. If it wasn't, Webster's wouldn't need to add all those new words every year.

Respectfully,

Lisa Daily

Dawn Goldberg

Thanks so much for taking the time to comment on my post on Write Well Me. I appreciate the different point of view!

I agree with you that Lisa's writing is superb. Her writing is from the heart, and she has a quirky sense of humor, which I adore. :-)

My problem isn't with Lisa's writing style but rather with her assertion that proper English is unworthy of a writer and that if enough people do something incorrectly (such as pronoun agreement), the incorrect way should become correct. If someone chooses not to, well, that certainly is her choice. Just don't try to convince me that it should be the correct choice.

Writers do often manipulate language to their own needs. For one, that's how we get new words. I just don't agree that writing in proper English makes the writing unreadable.

I do thank you for continuing the conversation and submitting your comment.

Anyone else have an opinion?

Lisa McLeod

Wow, who knew this was such a hot topic.

I've written about Jesus, Sex, Botox, and Predjudice, and I've never had more passionate responses than to my column about grammar.

One editor refused to run it, and two others who have never run my column before picked it up because they liked it so much.

Go figure.

Here's the deal, I was trying to make a point on behalf of people whose heads are filled with ideas, yet face constant criticism about their mechanics.

I went through school absolutely miserable and completely convinced that I wasn't one of the smart kids, because ever teacher I ever had hammered my on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and handwriting,

Byt the time I was in fourth grade I was totally checked out, and it wasn't until I was 35 years old that I realized I had had something to say, and that I could say it in writing.

So here's my non-expert opinion, if you want to encourage people comment on their ideas first, and their mechanics second.

And if you have a chatter-box, joke-cracking kid with sloppy everything, tell them that you see the seeds of something good and that they shouldn't let grammar hold them back.

Lisa McLeod -wwwForgetPerfect.com

PS - if Lisa Daily's idea to take up a collection to hire an editor for me takes off, I will gladly accept their services with great relief.

Stacy Brice

Not to be snert-like about this, but goodness... "their" is simply not a gender-neutral pronoun.

You want one? Me, too. How about if we create one and try to get it adopted.

Lemmings aside, there's no reason to try to make something into what it's not.

I mean, you can stand me in the corner with a umbrella over my arm and a hat on my head and call me a coat rack, but that doesn't make me one, you know?

"February" is "February," no matter how many people think it's fine to drop the middle "r." And oddly, I suspect that those who think that's no big deal (dropping the "r") would like to die before accepting that the same fate ever happen to "library," although common use might make that a reality at any moment!

Rules in language exist so that all users can understand each other. What we have with English is odd, to be sure, but is it so horrific that it needs to be dumbed down and quirked up more than it already is?

Writers are leaders in the use of language. Those who insist on bastardizing the language (and the associated rules of grammar and punctuation that go along with it) not only (IMO) set a poor example for the rest of the world, but also might find themselves writing in a completely different language in the not-so-distant future.

Ebonics, anyone? :)

Dawn Goldberg

Okay, I had to look up "snert." I found a series of definitions on (where else?) Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snert, for those of you who are interested. :-)

And you stole my thunder on "February," although I'll still talk about it come February 1. :-)

Thanks for adding your voice!

Love,
D

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